Nassau to File Lawsuit to Stop NIFA Takeover
Suit reportedly to be filed by mid-February.
Nassau County Attorney John Ciampoli had a couple of questions for the Nassau Interim Finance Authority (NIFA) Board of Directors Wednesday afternoon.
He didn’t get any answers.
“I had some questions that were clearly to be directed to this board, to the chairman,” Ciampoli said in the conference center of the Long Island Marriott in Uniondale after the state watchdog had just issued a control period over Nassau’s finances, essentially taking over the county.
“We have a system of laws and I think I found a group of people saying today that they are going to disregard those laws and make their own determination and impose it upon the elected government of Nassau County,” Ciampoli said, adding that he was “astonished” but not surprised that the six-member board voted unanimously to assume control over what it says is a $176 million operating deficit.
“I’m not telling you we’re out here declaring war today, but we are going to take this all under advisement,” Ciampoli said.
County Executive Ed Mangano confirmed at a press conference following the vote that the county will be filing a lawsuit against NIFA to block its takeover. However, during that time it will still comply with the regulation to provide NIFA with a revised budget by Feb. 15.
Ciampoli stated that he would file the suit “as soon as I’m ready,” but definitely before the Feb. 15 deadline.
“It is not plain to me what clause in the NIFA statute that NIFA is taking its actions under,” he said thumbing through a 30-page document NIFA personnel say explains the reasoning behind the takeover.
He also questioned how 20 days into the fiscal year NIFA can determine the budget is out of balance, saying that “we shouldn’t take the government that the people elected and take it away from them.”
Nassau’s outside counsel includes Mangano’s former law firm of Rivkin Radler, approved in a deal by the legislature two weeks ago as part of a series of contracts objected to by the Democratic caucus.
As part of the takeover, NIFA has authority to approve all contracts except for those already in place. If the contract was approved by the legislature today, NIFA could have denied it, and blocked outside attorneys from representing the county in its yet to be filed lawsuit.
Joel Scott
4:22 pm on Thursday, January 27, 2011
Now government is stealing from government. Thieves. All of them.
Captain Kirk
10:38 am on Friday, January 28, 2011
Gee how much will this costs us taxpayers? Did any of these knuckleheads ask us the people if we wanted to sue? Oh that's right they're doing it for us with our money! How silly of me!
Jack O'Niel
11:29 am on Friday, January 28, 2011
I doubt it will add much because the lawyers are probably already getting paid whether they work or not.
Jeanne Falabella
11:12 pm on Friday, January 28, 2011
It was no secret that this was coming down the pike, and the last thing we as taxpayers need is to have our hard-earned dollars spent on a lawsuit. Paying for attorneys to represent us in a spitting contest against NIFA is not the way for Mr. Mangano to prove that he has a grip on our finances. He needs to put his pride to the side. Let NIFA take over and let the chips fall where they may. If our situation doesn't improve, then he can say "I told you so."
Captain Kirk
8:55 am on Saturday, January 29, 2011
Who is the lawsuit meaning to protect? We the people or them the politicians? I wonder?
Eddie
9:28 am on Saturday, January 29, 2011
NIFA has the ability to raise property taxes, a move they as Democrats are promising. At least Mr. Mangano's budget has frozen my assessments for four years. My assessments increased 850% under the Democrats, who claimed most years never to have raised my taxes.
Every dollar I don't give to supporting the likes of the Nassau County Office of Minority Affairs, Economic Opportunity Commission, Coordinated Agency for Hispanic Americans, Constituent Affairs , Office for the Physically Challenged or a gaggle of other virtually useless entities duplicating federal services is a dollar I can spend raising my family.
Claudia Borecky
5:29 pm on Saturday, January 29, 2011
NIFA does not have the ability or the authority to raise our taxes. Raising your assessments does not raise your taxes. If the value of your home went up 850%, that does not affect your taxes by one dollar if everyone else in your neighborhood went up 850%. Your assessment is only your slice of the pie that you pay for the services that our town and county provide. The county froze our taxes 6 out of the 8 years that Suozzi was in office. I wish Kate Murray could say the same thing, who raised our taxes four out of those same 8 years. But the ones who have control of 68% of our tax dollars are the school board. So either we hold our school board members accountable, elect members who will safeguard our tax dollars or demand that Fuschillo and McKevitt change the archaeic formulas that heavily burden Long Island taxpayers.
Captain Kirk
10:03 am on Saturday, January 29, 2011
This is not meant to be argumentative because maybe I missed something but I haven't seen anywhere where the NIFA has made any comment on raising taxes. Yes they have that ability under their mandate and the type of control they can exert but where does it say they will? Although there are some Democrats on this board as well as members of other parties it is my understanding that they will act in a fiduciary capacity regardless of their party affiliation.. That's how they got there. So we can't trust the elected officials, we can't trust the people of NIFA; I guess we're screwed!
Eddie
10:10 am on Saturday, January 29, 2011
Say your prayers, Captain, and grieve your taxes, for the increases will surely come...
These are the same people that supported Suozzi's plan for a future 19% increase.
Joel Scott
11:54 am on Saturday, January 29, 2011
And to think the spark that blossomed liberty and America was because of taxation. Here we are 200+ years later taxed to death. My taxes are taxed.
What scares me the most is no one understands the prinicples involved- That an individual has a right to his own life, property and pursuit of happiness without having to support his neighbor or any cause of the moment, or worse programs he out right rejects morally. We are in trouble, not because our politicians act as they do, but because the people of America have lost the undertanding of Individual Rights, Freedom and Property Rights.
All one needs to do is read international news to see where governement control leads- to poverty.
Hold on people....because this blue ball at 23 degreees is going on 'Full Tilt" within 20 years.
-J
Eddie
8:24 pm on Saturday, January 29, 2011
Claudia, your remarks mislead. Yes, an increase in assessed value by 850% is indeed different from a tax increase, but in practice it significantly raises the tax bill. So while Suozzi and you boast that taxes were frozen in 6 of 8 years, assessments were not, and the amount I paid increased 500% -- tens of thousands of dollars over eight years. Food out of my kids' mouths.
And I certainly know the difference between Town, School and County taxes. You fail to mention that Suozzi's annual assessment increases govern all taxes but those of the City of Long Beach. So the Democrats' reassessment raised my County, State, Town and School tax bills. Oh yea, in Long Beach, the Democratic City Council also raised my taxes 28% in one year.
You may mislead tenants and Section 8 voters to believe that taxes were not raised, but anyone paying a tax bill knows his payments at least tripled under Suozzi's tenure. And smarter tenants know their rent increases were greatly mandated by property tax and assessment increases.
Hey, people must have learned the truth -- as they came out in record numbers to boot the taxing Democrats to the curb.
Claudia Borecky
10:08 am on Sunday, January 30, 2011
May I suggest you read the article that I wrote last year about assessment. It better explains how assessments work: http://merrick.patch.com/articles/borecky-is-our-residential-property-tax-assessment-system-really-broken. I should point out that the first thing Mangano said when he was elected was that assessments are not the reason our taxes are so high. Funny, but that's the exact opposite claim that the Republicans were making during their entire tenure in the minority. As it turns out, Mangano is in way over his head and has no idea how to balance a budget and lacks the knowledge, vision and innovation that Suozzi had in turning around a county. Yes, people did vote in Mangano - but it was under false pretences and idol campaign promises. We were duped!!
An tUasal Airgead
11:26 am on Sunday, January 30, 2011
The Nassau County Comptroller website lists Role of the Comptroller as;
Comptroller Maragos serves as the fiscal watchdog for Nassau County, which has a population of 1.3 million and annual budget of $2.6 billion.
http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/Comptroller/biography.html
On page 156 of the County document linked below, the Comptroller budget is detailed
http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/documents/budgetA2011PROPOSEDSUPPORTINGSCHEDULE.pdf
The 2009 salary for the “Secretary to Comptroller” was $ 52,754.
The 2010 salary for the “Secretary to Comptroller” was $ 72,100.
The 2011 salary for the “Secretary to Comptroller” is $ 109,375.
While he appears to be watching out for his secretary, I’m not sure he is serving his role as a “Fiscal Watchdog for Nassau County”.
Eddie
11:41 am on Sunday, January 30, 2011
Thanks for your offer to educate me on assessments. As owner of dozens of Nassau properties and am quite expert on assessments and the County property tax system. You are misinforming readers; attempting to convince them that annual arbitrary assessment increases by the Democrats had nothing to do with their oppressive tax bill increases.
You echo the Democrats' smoke and mirror assertions that County taxes were not increased in six of Suozzi's eight years. You don't say tax bills did not increase. You can't. They increased 500%.
You are playing games with words, and you know it. High taxes result from high spending. Increasing assessments every year is one way to take more taxes from me while telling people that you have not increased rates.
The jig is up. After eight years of tax AND assessment increases that cost me a quarter million dollars, for the first time I have no increases. Mangano duped me? He has agreed not to raise assessments for four years. Mine have even been lowered. To me that's a savings of maybe $30,000. Dupe me again.
If you like a bigger tax, why not write the County a check. But leave me out of it. My family as well as my tenants are tired of paying for the increased spending that you and your Democrats have imposed on this County.
If you're a taxpayer, you certainly don't look at your bills. Maybe you're a Democrat committeewoman or employee?
An tUasal Airgead
12:14 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
Civic participation is not what it used to be and we have no one to blame but ourselves. In the last election we were choosing a Governor and only 368,000 Nassau County residents cast a ballot. There are 1,000,000 people in Nassau over the age of 18.
A recent Island Trees school budget election averaged one vote per every three students, with Levittown School residents showing up at the rate of one vote for every two students. Even if every student came from a single parent home, which they don’t, there are a lot of residents not participating.
I believe we need to pay our Teachers a decent salary to prepare our children, but it seems to have got out of hand. There were 120 staff receiving $100K+ salaries in the Island Trees School District in the 2009 – 2010 school year. There were over 450 staff receiving $100K+ salaries in the Levittown School District in the 2009 – 2010 school year.
Jeanne Falabella
12:53 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
Our children need teachers, but how many of THEM are actually earning $100K+ a year? Why are there so many individual school districts with individual Superintendents and secretaries for the Superintendents and cars for the Superintendents? Get rid of these yahoos. The NYC School Chancellor has responsibility for far more students and teachers and only earns $250,000 a year. WHY does Nassau need FIFTY school districts? I think we could manage quite nicely with three: one each for Hempstead, N. Hempstead and Oyster Bay. That should put at least a little dent in our taxes.
An tUasal Airgead
2:27 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
I don’t think I want our schools to go the way of NYC schools, under any circumstances. A general lack of parental participation in our children’s education aside, I would like to see higher education levels provided by the 570+ teachers in the Island Trees / Levittown area. With 570 X $100K+ adding up to well over $57,000.000.00 annually (not even all the teacher salaries included), our schools should be cranking out scholars that would make any Tiger Mom proud.
Let’s not drop this all on our schools. How many of us personally know, or regularly see Town and County workers taking advantage of an old outdated patronage system to get hired and stay employed, while doing as little as possible until retirement.
Major changes need to happen at the Town and County level to even begin to scratch the surface of the problem and obviously most of the people in office appear to be part of the problem, not part of the solution.
An tUasal Airgead
12:14 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
I also believe we need to pay our Police a decent salary to protect our children, but it seems to have got out of hand. Yesterday in that newspaper owned by that cable company, they reported almost half of the 2400 members of the Nassau County Police Department collected more than $150,000.00 in pay last year.
That same paper also reported yesterday that 1/3 of the Town of Hempstead Animal Shelter employees collected more than $100,000.00 in pay last year (of course almost all were Kate cronies).
The deregulation that led to widespread abuse in the financial markets, leading to the latest economic bubble bursting, has and will continue to have devastating effects on most Town, County, State budgets. This will also add stress to an already strained Federal budget.
Hard choices are required. There are no quick and easy solutions and any political speech stating otherwise, is disingenuous at best.
Our children will be paying for our apathy … and probably our grandchildren.
Bojames
12:34 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
With all this concern about taxes why are you/we paying for Clergy /Ministers who own private property . Real Property Law 460 grants exemptions of $1500 of assesssed value which in Nassau with .25% assessments comes out to thousands per property passed to you and me. Why does this continue??????? Do you like paying taxes for other people/
An tUasal Airgead
9:14 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
There were a total of 400,341 exemptions in 2009.
Clergy, Exempt Code 41400 = 481 exemptions.
The Clergy represents approximately 0.1215% of all exemptions.
http://www.orps.state.ny.us/cfapps/MuniPro/muni_theme/state/b4a.cfm?g=A&sum=87295448&desc=Residential%20Property%20Other%20Than%20Multiple%20Dwellings%20and%20Non%2DResidential%20Property%20Owned%20by%20Certain%20Individuals&roll_yr=2009&prefix=Nassau%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20County%26nbsp%3B&swis=28
http://www.orps.state.ny.us/cfapps/MuniPro/muni_theme/state/exgroup.cfm?swis=28&roll_yr=2009&prefix=Nassau%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20County%26nbsp%3B
Captain Kirk
1:20 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
Do you really think taxing the clergy will solve the mess that we the taxpayers have voted for over and over again? These highly paid clergy who exist to help us, to consul us when we're troubled, who run food pantries and clothing drives for those in the community that are in need and are too embarassed to go anywhere else, who organize blood drives and generally try to help out the community more than we ourselves do, oh yes let's tax them! Amazing!!!!!
Bojames
5:03 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
Solve the mess ? No. But is it fair to continue to let them pass thier tax on to you and me? You have to start somewhere to create fairness.
Your sarcasm is noted. Also note that many clothing drives, food pantries ,blood drives are NOT run by clergy. Following your logic, we should then give a tax exemption to the folks who run these worthwhile community services. Why stop there ? Why not nurses and policemen who serve the community? Sanitation workers and teachers too. Where should it end? The existing exemptions for Vol. Firefighters and Vets are well deserved for the disruption of their lives and the danger they face. The Clergy exemption is a relic of the past originating in the 19th century and should be eliminated
An tUasal Airgead
9:16 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
§ 460. Clergy. (1) Real property owned by a minister of the gospel,
priest or rabbi of any denomination, an actual resident and inhabitant
of this state, who is engaged in the work assigned by the church or
denomination of which he or she is a member, or who is unable to perform
such work due to impaired health or is over seventy years of age, and
real property owned by his or her unremarried surviving spouse while an
actual resident and inhabitant of this state, shall be exempt from
taxation to the extent of fifteen hundred dollars.
Sounds fair enough to me.
Captain Kirk
5:36 pm on Sunday, January 30, 2011
So the clergy that I work with to help fill their food pantry, the volunteers that make thousands of sandwiches and meals for the Mary Brennan Inn in Hempstead that feeds thousands of hungry people on the island doesn't really exist? The hundreds of volunteers that come out of churches and synagogues that donate their time, energy, and money, all organized by the high paid clergy, means nothing to you? Drive over to the Inn in Hempstead and see what people do for people you probably don't even notice that are all oragnaized and facilitated by these tax scofflaws! My church next week will have volunteers from the Mary Brennan Inn standing outside the doors after the service with soup pots asking for donations for the poor. I know, go tell them to stand on a street corner somewhere!
Eddie
8:35 am on Monday, January 31, 2011
Sure it's a drop in the bucket, and it's a can of worms, but it illustrates the haphazard enforcement of assessment rules.
The clergy exemption is fraught with misuse and fraud. In Roosevelt, for example, thousands of self-proclaimed ministers have received exemptions on their home-churches-mosques-whatever-they-are and it has caused a substantial increase in others' taxes.
Here in Long Beach, at least one religious school/temple owns many two family houses that it rents to Section 8 tenants through a Long Beach broker. There's even a catering service and dog grooming outfit operating out of their exempt houses. Yep, they are all wholly exempt from property taxes. Now how is that allowed to happen?
Nobody's watching these abuses. And try reporting them -- your complaints fall on deaf ears. Calls, certified letters, complaints to the State -- all unanswered.
Rita Plaza
3:03 am on Sunday, December 4, 2011
Why does nifa get grants when they are SLUM LORD!