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Residents Voice Disapproval of NVG Project

Posters on Patch think the project is a better fit elsewhere.

The proposal for a new assisted living facility at the North Village Green site is not proving to be a popular one with commenters on Patch.

Readers have aired out complaints with the project in the comments section on several articles and on Facebook across several months.

Many residents believe that the project does not fit in with the character of the village greens.

"The greens have been important recreational anchors that were part of the original planning by Levitt and have served to enhance the quality of life and preserve and enhance property values.," said user Maureen Canty, commenting on an article on the project from February. "... A 100-resident facility and the ensuing traffic congestion and noise pollution will destroy the North Village Green, degrade the ambiance of the park and is another classic example (along with the absolutely unsightly store fronts on Wolcott Road) of poor planning."

User Mac commented on the same article. He supported the development of the lot, but is concerned about the current proposal's size, which is currently planned to be three stories.

"A three-story complex of that square footage in the middle of a residential area is concerning," he said. "The traffic and more specifically parking on the street could be dangerous and make the area extremely congested."

Several people also brought up concerns about the building's size at recent Levittown Property Owners Association (LPOA) meetings, worrying that the building will block out sunlight and stick out in the neighborhood.

Attorney Bill DiConza, who represents the developers, said in an article last week that the developers planned to make the building three stories in order to preserve the streetscape of the lot. He said that the developers would listen if residents had concerns with the size.

"If, in the end, three stories is deemed to be too tall, then a lower, more spread out building with less open lawn space can be developed," he said. "Mr. Mormando does not seek to do with his property anything that would negatively impact the neighborhood."

Several people attending recent LPOA meetings also had concerns about area traffic, especially since a church is slated to open soon in the same area. 

LPOA vice president Andy Booth reminded attendees of the March meeting that the organization opposed the construction of the church.

Booth said that the application was defeated by the town and the state, but was overturned in federal court because federal law states that "no one has the power to overturn a church."

Several users wrote that the project would be a better fit elsewhere. One commonly recommended location was the former KMart site at the corner of Gardiners Avenue and Hempstead Turnpike.

"I would love to see assisted living in the old TSS shopping center, right in the middle of everywhere," said user lynn. "Public transportation is ideal. Maybe a cross over to the shopping center across the street."

User Lou Stein suggested in the comments of the initial article about the project that the building should go at "the old HSBC site instead of a residential area." Since that time, CVS has announced their intention to move into the former HSBC building.

DiConza said that he and the developers want to construct a building that the community can support.

"This is not some outside developer seeking to maximize his profits," he said. "If that were the case, the property would have been sold and developed commercially many years ago. This is a community asset and will be developed as such. We look forward to working with the community to this end."

DowninLevittown May 4, 2012 at 02:18 am
curt,
we had a bowling alley with a bar that the residents could use and no one complained. I think the residents would welcome something that serves the residents and it not out of place for a residential street. even the garden apartments aren't as large and as much of an eyesore as this is planned to be.
DowninLevittown May 4, 2012 at 02:22 am
Why is my comment replying to mr. patane listed as "pending approval" while my one to curt is not and was posted after. Do paid advertisers to PATCH get special treatment?
Harvey waller May 4, 2012 at 09:33 am
They could build it in oyster bay right across the street from mormando. Thenhe could look at his beautiful commitment to the community
Rick May 4, 2012 at 06:34 pm
Business wasn't good in the NVG bowling alley and the property owner wants to tear his building down and build an assisted living complex in its place. What will happen when the same property owner has a turn in business at his South Levittown Lanes? He will construct another new assisted living complex on Tanners Lane. It will be easy, he can use the same architectural drawings he wants to use for the NVG project. It will be called Assisted Living South (Phase 2). He will have a breeze getting the Town Board and Board of Appeals to approve of it due to the precedent that the NVG Assisted Living project would grant. This is alarming to all the Levittown residents. We must use our voting power to elect people that will fight for the type of neighborhoods that we moved here to live in. If I wanted to have city congestion (traffic and housing), I would have moved to Brooklyn for a much faster commute!
Fred Finger May 11, 2012 at 05:04 pm
South Levittown Lanes is having a senior appreciation day on Fri May 18th Dennis Dunne will be there LPOA should be there with signs as well showing our disappointment with the NVG!
Laura May 29, 2012 at 03:36 pm
Levittown according the original convent didn't allow blacks only as workers and they needed to be out of the development by 5:00. Things change, people need to adapt. The real problem as all the huge gorgeous house's that surround this area will lose 1/2 their property value. I mean I feel bad for these people but especially the family that has to look at the huge crosses at the other side of the green. People bought those properties and blew them out and made them all gorgeous but no one ever said change was never going to come. If I lived on Crocus, Blacksmith and by this development but I am also pissed that because there is barely any commercial tax base I pay $12,000 in taxes. That is what makes me sick. The senior complex is better off on the Hempstead Turnpike where the Temple was. But you know what, at the end of the day Levittown home owners you cant bitch about your taxes and Bitch about development.
Concerned American May 30, 2012 at 05:20 pm
Laura has a point-Levittown doesn't want these developments but everyone complains about their taxes. The TOH fought (with local residents as the catalyst) against plans for the old KMart site when Home Depot was looking to develop the property. That took two years to work through the courts, and how does the site look now? Then you see ads complaining that "back in the old days" the KMart site was thriving. Hmm, how come it's not thriving now? Could developers be sick of trying to develop on lots where everything they plan is a NO from the TOH and local interests? When will the site for the Zwanger-Pesiri be developed? That building has been down for almost two years now-is the TOH fast tracking the building permits, or did the developer walk away? Why so long to tear down the old HSBC bank building-isn't there a tenant waiting in the wings (CVS)? That sat idle for years-did the TOH fast track that property? How about the American Cleaners near Dollar Tree - what are they waiting for?
JR May 31, 2012 at 03:14 am
Would you all rather a 24/7 CVS, Walgreens or maybe yet another bank be built on the site. Wouldn't it be nice to house your seniors within your own community? Assisted Living is not built in middle class areas for no reason. They tend to take unsightly properties and turn them into a beautiful area. We lived in the time of good and plenty where strip malls were built on any open piece of land. This progressed to fast food chains, convenience stores, and banks doing the same. "If we don't build it someone else will." So here you are faced with a sustainable business that in harsh economic times not only survived but THRIVED because of demand. We aren't getting younger. The companies promote hiring from the local neighborhood and remaining active in the community. What a HORRIBLE idea-keeping aging Levittowners in their own community, cleaning up an outdated property, stopping another cookie cutter chain business from opening then closing leaving yet another empty store front for you to list as a better option for placement, AND they will be hiring locals. Has anyone researched the amount of staff that would be using public transportation as opposed to driving? And I can assure you loud drunken behavior on weekend nights will not be an issue as I am sure it on occasion was with the bowling alley. I am sure that many people who live in assisted living have some difficulty ambulating. I hear they keep their parties indoors and serve the seniors while seated!
An tUasal Airgead May 31, 2012 at 04:41 am
Ridiculous
Mac May 31, 2012 at 08:12 am
Yes indeed ridiculous. I don't think anyone is against senior housing. But a three story development in the middle of a residential area in close proximity to the high school and new enormous church is not reasonable. There is not enough parking and traffic would be overwhelming to the area. Go build the senior center on the main road say where the old Kmart building is. JR and Laura I wonder if this three story facility was built next to your house would it be so appealing.
peach is May 31, 2012 at 03:30 pm
Why don't you ifdentify yourself instead of trying to sound like an average concerned citizen. Deceptive....makes me wonder about your business practices.
pete June 1, 2012 at 03:01 pm
Oh boy, they dump this place right in the middle of Levittown . What a shame . I feel for the hard working tax payers that have seen their community turn to a dump over the past couple decades . No way a place like this would be developed in south Merrick residential area .
pete June 1, 2012 at 03:04 pm
Long Island, in general , has seen more young people leave because there simply is no affordable place to live . Only the soft , rich kids can get mommy n daddy to buy a house for them . I agree with the poster above that said they should develop nice apartments , ( like those in Fl) to keep young families here .
JR June 2, 2012 at 03:15 am
I have watched Levittown change over my lifetime. I loved living there and love that my parents still do. This will allow them to remain in their home community as the need for care arrises. I worked at foodtown, shopped at TSS, and remember carnivals in the field on the corner of wantagh Ave and hempstead Tpke. I fear more empty store fronts and decline. Remember that Levittown was predicted to become a slum. Instead it thrived. Be smart about what you resist and what you welcome. Assisted living is a business that's foundation is about people not things. And by the way I live within walking distance of 2 assisted living facilities right now. One is a sunrise that sounds about the same size. It happens to be 3 floors. Its great to see high school kids work in the diningroom and other areas. They learn responsibity, compassion, and friendship from an entirely different generation. I gained far more than I lost with this facility being built. I wasted my time resisting because of noise and traffic.
Mac June 2, 2012 at 08:22 am
Jr nobody is against a assisted living facility. It is the size, scope and location people are opposed too. A three story building in that location would be extremely problematic by adding more traffic, noise and a huge building regardless how appealing the make it look. There are other locations in and around Levittown that would be better suited for a project of this size. Perhaps a scaled down project in this location would be more acceptable.
Laura June 2, 2012 at 07:59 pm
I say right on the money. It is better for all the NIBY's to have another I sore or blight. Heaven forbid a building gets built that actually takes care of our parents. JR you are really wasting your time. Ignorant is Ignorant no matter how you present it. I don't recall when I bought my property that I signed anything saying the greens in Levittown were going to remain a den of inequity. Didn't they bust a prostitution ring running out of one of these buildings? Gangs are everywhere, the kids of this town are fowl mouth drug addicted pill popping problems in and of them own right. How many know about the PHARM parties? I thank God my son went to Chaminade got an excellent education is now in an Ivy league college. I am done with Patch. Really you cannot argue with stupid, Have a nice life! Enjoy your higher taxes and if you all put your resources together you can figure out how to pilot you helicopters from lower heights so you can can keep an eye on your little darlings.
Mac June 2, 2012 at 08:46 pm
Laura angry a bit? Who said dont build an asisted living facility. How about one that is not 3 stories and needs a variance for parking on a street that is abus route and is less then 3 blocks from the high school next to a church that already is enormous and required a parking variance. You are right ignoarant really is ignorant I guess its like the pot calling the kettle black after reading your drivel. I guess nothing bad ever happens at Chaminade.When was the prostituion ring? Where are these gangs? Drug riddled youth a little overboard? Thankfully I sent my two children to Levittown schools both went on to college and now have good jobs raising families themselves. I certainly hope you left Levittown because with an attitude like yours WE DONT NEED OR WANT YOU HERE!!! I am proud to have raised 2 children here and still am proud to live here among many fine families and longtime friends.
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Laura June 3, 2012 at 02:58 am
Mac, I am not angry one, none of what is going on is going to effect me in the slightest. You are the other hand seem to be the one that cant swallow this bitter pill. The prostitution ring was in the strip mall off Walcott in one of the buildings, from my memory I would say about a year ago it was shut down. I personally many posts ago thought that nursing situation of that type would be better suited for the turnpike where the temple use to be. I am insulted, I am posting drivel? When was the last home owners association meeting you attended?
Laura June 3, 2012 at 02:59 am
They had one over a year ago where the Head of the P.B.A. as well at the highest paid members of the Nassau County Police Department were represented. It was the night the Night-watch for Levittown was established. We were all told that Ms-13 is active in Levittown as is the Latin Kings their gang initiation requires them to pick people at random and cut them with a box cutter from ear to ear. Well apparently unbeknownst to the community this was taking place at the Levittown Movie Theater. One night all hell broke loss and people where just jumping into anyone's car/truck to flee the scene. You needlessly attacked me for my life choices, and my words. I never called the pot Black I don't understand all of this popping off when obviously you do not nor have you involved yourself in any of the Home Owners Meetings. That's on your back, not mine Bud! Thanks, no nothing bad happen to my son he obtained an education that will afford him the opportunity to do great things with his life. As for the Drugs, Go get the past three weeks of the Levittown Tribune. The PHARM parties are all the rage. My girlfriend sent me back to my post. My time would have been better off beating my head against a wall. You are completely unaware of anything other than what affects your taxes, Boo Hoo! Unless prompted I am out this discussion as well as the development of Levittown is a JOKE because Levittown is full of the NIMBY crowd.
Laura June 3, 2012 at 03:00 am
Peace, Dude, I am out........
Mac June 3, 2012 at 08:27 am
Great Laura you finish up with peace but your posts are full of anger. Where are the ms 13 and latin kings. I have not heard or read of one person being cut from ear to ear here in Levittown. If you could point it out go ahead. What strip mall is on Walcott? Do you mean the daycare or where they are building the church isn't that right where we should put the elderly? Your drug rant is way overboard the sky is not falling. If you think nothing goes on at chaminade you are delirious. The difference is those kids get tossed. Why do I need to attend a homeowners meeting if I am proud of being here and having many long deep friendships. Could things be better here? Absolutely but you could say that about anywhere. Your postings are of that of a madwoman. I ask if you are so unhappy here so concerned about gangs and drugs why do you stay? I ask that question of many but you are by far the Angriest.
Laura June 3, 2012 at 02:46 pm
I am leaving. I posted on another thread, my family and I are leaving Levittown, once the gut renovation is done on our new home. Call the police community center to verify the gang problem and PHARM parties. Your right I am pissed why should have to leave what was ONCE an awesome town, I still love and care for my neighbors. Talk to yours there meeting I am referring to was held because of all the robberies in Levittown and it was explosive as many Levittown residents are City and County Cops. That was the first time I ever heard about the gangs. It came from the audience of a couple of hundred people. The police didn't want to talk about the gangs, they had no choice, woman were crying, it really was awful. The prostitution was in the strip mall over be the Cross I can see from my house. So to answer your question again, Yes I am extremely pissed that I have to move because the violence is escalating as are the break-ins again. Peace out.....
Mac June 3, 2012 at 03:08 pm
Great because with your attitude who needs you. Please move out of sodom and gammora before it is too late. Thanks for all the useless misleading information. Still waiting to stumble across the article or news reports about people in Levittown getting slashed open from ear to ear.
Laura June 3, 2012 at 03:12 pm
Mac, I am not breaking you chops but it has been pointed out to me that I am coming across that way. I am sorry if you feel that way. I lived in a very happy place until all this crap with gangs and their initiations started. The police knew, they actually demanded the Levittown movie theater hire and pay for their own security there were so many problems night after night in the warmer weather. No neighborhood is perfect, but when we bought our house here, Levittown was perfect to me and my family. I am so sad about leaving you have no idea. That is where my anger comes from and I am sorry, I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you or anyone else. People cant fight all the growth and development and then just the other day my neighbors and I got together for coffee and all got really pissed about, crime, taxes, development, the schools. I don't have the answer only for my family and that is to leave. It will be a sad day for me. Again I am sorry if I can out guns blazing sometimes my passion comes across as being mean. I don't have a mean bone in my body, hence the apology. I am sincerely sorry. Laura
Mac June 3, 2012 at 03:28 pm
Well said sometime passion comes out a little over the top. Things aren't as bad as you paint them because the quality of people here in levittown is incredible. The items we are concerned about here in Levittown are the same exact concerns in most communities here in Nassau county. Good luck.
Laura June 3, 2012 at 03:56 pm
Thank you for accepting my apology and really I wish nothing but the best to all of my Levittown friends. When asked what I will miss most other than the friendships is the sense of community and my damn pool tag.
The second Tuesday of every month the H.O.A. for Levittown meet in the basement of the Library. I also found over the years that reading the Levittown Tribune has helped me stay in tuned immensely. Good luck and Prayers to all my dear friends as well as all of Levittown's current residents. Thank you again for accepting my apology.
Maureen Carty June 4, 2012 at 04:14 pm
"Would you all rather a 24/7 CVS, Walgreens or maybe yet another bank be built on the site. " The site is not well suited for this for the same reason it is not well suited to be a 156 bed assisted living facility -- no main access. For a commercial endeavor, this is a receipe for failure. The East Village Green shops are well positioned off of Jerusalem Avenue to attract business. The North Village Green is accessed off Hempstead Tpke but through a residential street (Wolcott Road) - this lack of main access makes it difficult to attract business. This limited access via a residential street also the reason that a 156 bed assisted living facility is not a fit. The access simply cannot accommodate such density and the ensuing traffic (staff, visitors, vendors, community transportation, ambulance and other medical traffic)
Maureen Carty June 4, 2012 at 04:15 pm
"Wouldn't it be nice to house your seniour within your own community?" The average rents at the proposed 156 bed assisted living facility would be roughly $4,000 according to the developers representative. Like the Oyster Bay Manor/ Harbor House assisted living/dementia facility would be private pay. So, while your heart is in the right place, JR, there will be few , if any, Levittowners who will be able to afford this care.
Maureen Carty June 4, 2012 at 04:26 pm
"Has anyone researched the amount of staff who woiuld be using public transportation as opposed to driving" I have not been able to ascertain such a breakdown. In fact, I have had to do a lot of my own research, referencing independent studies, in order to try to understand the impact of the proposed facility. I have shared what I have learned through commentary on this site. It would be nice if the developer and his group would accept invitations to present their plan to the Community via LPOA. Instead, I am sad to say, the developer's representative has chosen to attend LPOA meetings anonymously.
JR, I think what is really important to understand is the denisty of the project being proposed. For example, in order to hit the 156 bed capacity, the developer is asking for a variance for 2x the square footage threshhold. There are really solid reasons the Community are opposed to the developer's plan. This is not a matter of NIMBY.

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